Adren of cele fade?

everyone tells me to get cele, and ok , cele owns on long corridor and u get a jp faster, but with a skilled jper, he will turn so much u will ran out of adren, then use 3rd slot ability to get more , but with adren u are avalible to to turn more in the air, the only other adren fade i know is foo, and u cannot tell me he dont own! (then dont say adren fade is for noobs omg )

btw, we are talking of slashing fades, not of campin acid ones,,, that get me angry)

im talking from my own experience now

Celity fade:
as a Celity fade i allways switch from weapon 1 - 2 -3 while in the air to constantly gain more adren, besides, using 3 in air means your hp goes up faster too. This is very hard to accheve to be perferct, i do got problems with using up all adren and end up dying. To die from running out from adren is the moast usual cause. Celity fade owns everything WHILE in siegeroom. you are quick and never run out of adren cause of the MC's at the dc wall.

Adren fade:
This is the hardest combination, but when you lern how to control it its almoast impossible to kill at big spaces (see foo at siege007 at jp room :P). You have alot more air control and so get alot harder to hit, the skill and experience needed for this is enormous. Lot of mouse twisting skill and more timing. Tho its easyer to use the 3rd ability since you run out of adren much slower. When the siegedoor opens the Adren fade got moast chanse of survival, since they can dodge the shots instead of outrunning the enemies, and they dont need to camp anywhere to regen but goes straight away to the siegeroom. Tho while AT the siegeroom you will NEVEREVERNEVER run out of adren, tho you arent as quick as a celity fade who almoast never run out of adren.

feel free to tell me im wrong
over and out =)

EDIT: Acid only fades are whimps!

Both are usefull.
U just need the "Know how" =)
Greetz Moe (loves sensorychambers ;-)

Well the type of fade u should choose dipends on the location of where u r in for example in siege_007 in the jp room..a cele fade would really quickly run out of adren if he doesnt use the 1-2-3 method properly but an adren fade would get more control and greaten the ability to aim. In supersiege003 in the siege room a cele fade would pwn since he always get the adren from siege wall and the adren fade never EVER runs out of adren so he gets lots of aim but doesnt attack as fast as cele fade. i personaly use cele fade since i have sum kind of need for speed but anyways i used to love adren fade as well but when i tried out cele fade i pwned much more efficiently.

Good sides vs. EVIL. Not

Cele fade
Faster - faster and uhm faster. Been using this build for a long time. Because Cele makes you faster and attackspeed a bit faster too it's my choice.
And you can use ctrl+jump you use less adrenaline while doing small leaps this helps a bit in JPfights.

You must use the 1-2-3 tactic more often but while you do it - you can recover HP also.

Adrenaline FADE
Seen some people use it and I have tried it also few times. Not for my liking because of its slower speed (and you'll be a easier target to shoot too). Maybe it's good at the first hive but - I don't think it's the best solution in the builds.

While you recover the adrenaline faster - you fail at speed - JPs might just go behind you and shoot hard. That makes this build very HARD to use.

My opinion.
Because Cele is alot faster I personaly like it more. While Adrenaline is only good at those "Long-range leaps"/"ACIDSPAMMAGE!" (which are easy to do with cele too like "2-3 combination").

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For Quake
Because I know you like fast rides (eh siegerooms) Adrenaline makes you too slow to get there fast enough. I would recommend the Cele build just because you can get there faster.

And about the JP - skillful JPers almost _never_ get hit by fades. That's why you have an anti-air solution too. But first let me tell my tactic for these...
JPers always(ohnoes) make small leaps (because it saves up the fuel) there is only few things you can do. Either wait for the new jump -> then attack. Or suprise the marine from behind - shouldn't be to hard.

And if the JPer is a long-leaper (doesn't want to save fuel) That makes your life a bit easier. You can just wait his fuel to run out and kill the JPer - or yet again try to suprise the marine.

And the OVERMASTERING tactic to kill non-good-jpers is:
Shouldn't be too hard to figure it out by yourself right?
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I hope this helped someone

- Kami

Good topic, i'm gonna try cele fade (always gone adren).
It's an annoying thing when I can't catch a marine when he is so close and he is running away.

In all the years i've been playing, i've found adren to be much more versatile for several reasons, as it becomes a real life saver in a multitude of situations.

Adren's advantages :

1) Gives you just enough energy to metab in a tight spot

2) More energy to fade (not as fast yes - but i find being able to fade MORE than being FASTER generally keeps me alive

3) Who cares about the running speed increase? adren gives you more energy to simply blink to running rines and swipe

4) Fade dodging - just swooping round in the air then landing and swooping; rinse and repeat tactic - adren lets you do this

5) Hit and run becomes a lot easier with the added regen - with cele, you may not have enough energy to swoop after a swipe - getting you killed when your up against 5 rines with lvl 3 hmgs

6) You can spam acid more

7) And finally, you can chain together a lot more swoops AND metaba - what more could you ask for?

Originally Posted by Slim

In all the years i've been playing, i've found adren to be much more versatile for several reasons, as it becomes a real life saver in a multitude of situations.

Adren's advantages :

1) Gives you just enough energy to metab in a tight spot

2) More energy to fade (not as fast yes - but i find being able to fade MORE than being FASTER generally keeps me alive

3) Who cares about the running speed increase? adren gives you more energy to simply blink to running rines and swipe

4) Fade dodging - just swooping round in the air then landing and swooping; rinse and repeat tactic - adren lets you do this

5) Hit and run becomes a lot easier with the added regen - with cele, you may not have enough energy to swoop after a swipe - getting you killed when your up against 5 rines with lvl 3 hmgs

6) You can spam acid more

7) And finally, you can chain together a lot more swoops AND metaba - what more could you ask for?

I'd like to see you blink past a JP guy using adrenaline, really.

Originally Posted by soffeli

I'd like to see you blink past a JP guy using adrenaline, really.

that is really pretty easy.

For me:

Celerity/Focus/Cap -> Fade in siege mode in Sige room using nice Siege Wall whit MC.

Adrenaline -> For normal play >_< :P